Comments on: Why Should I Look for Schools That Develop Children Socially and Emotionally? http://yoursfpublicschools.org/2009/12/21/why-should-i-look-for-schools-that-develop-children-socially-and-emotionally/ Look What We Can Do Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:45:33 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mario Pinnetoni http://yoursfpublicschools.org/2009/12/21/why-should-i-look-for-schools-that-develop-children-socially-and-emotionally/comment-page-1/#comment-339 Mario Pinnetoni Wed, 20 Jan 2010 04:49:15 +0000 http://yoursfpublicschools.org/?p=741#comment-339 Hi, it looks like your site Hi, it looks like your site

]]> By: Emilia Aultman http://yoursfpublicschools.org/2009/12/21/why-should-i-look-for-schools-that-develop-children-socially-and-emotionally/comment-page-1/#comment-318 Emilia Aultman Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:57:00 +0000 http://yoursfpublicschools.org/?p=741#comment-318 Thanks. Really useful posting. Thanks. Really useful posting.

]]> By: Brittany http://yoursfpublicschools.org/2009/12/21/why-should-i-look-for-schools-that-develop-children-socially-and-emotionally/comment-page-1/#comment-307 Brittany Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:54:58 +0000 http://yoursfpublicschools.org/?p=741#comment-307 Interesting, never thought of it like that Interesting, never thought of it like that

]]> By: Sylvan http://yoursfpublicschools.org/2009/12/21/why-should-i-look-for-schools-that-develop-children-socially-and-emotionally/comment-page-1/#comment-224 Sylvan Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:25:32 +0000 http://yoursfpublicschools.org/?p=741#comment-224 what is this author talking about?. Why is she citing adolescent health statistics in reference to elementary school children? Last I heard there are developmental differences between a 5 y.o and a 15 y.o. I'm also kind of surprised that the author is pushing Caring School Communities in her article. Isn't this seld-serving as an employee of DSC? I lot of this stuff about connectedness sounds like mumbo-jumbo.Iis this suppose to be some sort of revelation that liking school will make you do better? Wow, I should have thought of that! I'm also curious to know what an authentic conversation is. Unlike Mr. Krause, I suspect it is not an honest conversation. but instead a politicakky correct one. what is this author talking about?. Why is she citing adolescent health statistics in reference to elementary school children? Last I heard there are developmental differences between a 5 y.o and a 15 y.o. I’m also kind of surprised that the author is pushing Caring School Communities in her article. Isn’t this seld-serving as an employee of DSC?

I lot of this stuff about connectedness sounds like mumbo-jumbo.Iis this suppose to be some sort of revelation that liking school will make you do better? Wow, I should have thought of that! I’m also curious to know what an authentic conversation is. Unlike Mr. Krause, I suspect it is not an honest conversation. but instead a politicakky correct one.

]]> By: Don Krause http://yoursfpublicschools.org/2009/12/21/why-should-i-look-for-schools-that-develop-children-socially-and-emotionally/comment-page-1/#comment-220 Don Krause Wed, 23 Dec 2009 19:24:59 +0000 http://yoursfpublicschools.org/?p=741#comment-220 You raise a good point about evaluating a school on the basis of factors other than test scores. I would like to point out that when visiting a school on a tour it’s not easy to get a sense of school climate. Also, while I do agree that these other dimensions of connectedness you mention help to constitute a good learning environment, given that your employer claims that Caring School Communities helps to deliver better academic performance, don’t higher test scores indicate social and emotion gains as well? That is to say, if achievement and climate are integrally related it follows that test scores would reflect upon climate. And if better climate results in fewer disciplinary offenses, wouldn' t behavior statistics also be a reasonable indicator of climate? At the same time I understand that part of the problem in acquiring information on a school is that statistics don’t give a holistic sense of the learning environment, even if test scores reflect a great deal about a school, even though higher scores are positively correlated with fewer disciplinary issues. It is no revelation that higher scores reflect positively on the attitudes of students. In this way, I have to question the notion you raised about competition as a negative. I would agree that competition in the extreme may be counterproductive to learning when stress is at an unhealthy level, but our whole education system, particularly from secondary school through college, is competitive in nature. Are you referring to reducing competition strictly in elementary school education or are you suggesting that we revise the entire approach to the way we educate in accordance with the views of your employer, the Developmental Studies Center? Could you please clarify? Lastly, I am concerned about the Caring Schools Community’s emphasis on teaching LGBT sex education (Lesson 9) to small children. I don’t believe sex education at school is appropriate for that age group. So I am concerned when you use the term “authentic discussion” that you have an idea about authenticity that is quite different from that which I would see as authentic. I believe an authentic conversation is simply an honest one. That does not meant to include an honest and open conversation on any subject including sex education for young children.Given that your employer espouses such views (re: Alameda County BOE news from last spring) I would be have pause before employing the Caring Schools Community model, the use of which you are encouraging here on Your SF Schools. I look forward to hearing your response. You raise a good point about evaluating a school on the basis of factors other than test scores. I would like to point out that when visiting a school on a tour it’s not easy to get a sense of school climate. Also, while I do agree that these other dimensions of connectedness you mention help to constitute a good learning environment, given that your employer claims that Caring School Communities helps to deliver better academic performance, don’t higher test scores indicate social and emotion gains as well? That is to say, if achievement and climate are integrally related it follows that test scores would reflect upon climate. And if better climate results in fewer disciplinary offenses, wouldn’ t behavior statistics also be a reasonable indicator of climate?

At the same time I understand that part of the problem in acquiring information on a school is that statistics don’t give a holistic sense of the learning environment, even if test scores reflect a great deal about a school, even though higher scores are positively correlated with fewer disciplinary issues. It is no revelation that higher scores reflect positively on the attitudes of students. In this way, I have to question the notion you raised about competition as a negative. I would agree that competition in the extreme may be counterproductive to learning when stress is at an unhealthy level, but our whole education system, particularly from secondary school through college, is competitive in nature. Are you referring to reducing competition strictly in elementary school education or are you suggesting that we revise the entire approach to the way we educate in accordance with the views of your employer, the Developmental Studies Center? Could you please clarify?

Lastly, I am concerned about the Caring Schools Community’s emphasis on teaching LGBT sex education (Lesson 9) to small children. I don’t believe sex education at school is appropriate for that age group. So I am concerned when you use the term “authentic discussion” that you have an idea about authenticity that is quite different from that which I would see as authentic. I believe an authentic conversation is simply an honest one. That does not meant to include an honest and open conversation on any subject including sex education for young children.Given that your employer espouses such views (re: Alameda County BOE news from last spring) I would be have pause before employing the Caring Schools Community model, the use of which you are encouraging here on Your SF Schools.

I look forward to hearing your response.

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